What if the thing you're most meant to do is something you never imagined for yourself? In this episode of Trust Your Wisdom, Linda talks with intuitive healer and crystal bowl practitioner Laura Hackel about her unexpected journey from believing she wasn't musical to becoming a powerful facilitator of sound healing and transformation. Laura shares how intuition guided her into playing crystal bowls, the surprising experiences people have during her sessions, and how sound can help release emotional baggage, shift energy, and reconnect us with our authentic selves. Whether you're curious about crystal bowls, exploring your intuitive gifts, or simply looking for more joy and alignment in your life, this conversation offers inspiration, practical wisdom, and a reminder that it's never too late to discover what truly lights you up.
"The universe was not going to let you off the hook."
"The energy that you bring to anything you do has everything to do with the outcome that you create."
"It's never too late to start starting."
All right, well, welcome back to Trust Your Wisdom. And I am here today with a very special guest, someone that I have known for years, Laura Hackle.
And she has a, um, a wonderful website called Joyously Alive, and she plays amazing, um.
But let me tell you a little bit about her and also, of course, to say that today's podcast is sponsored by Ignite Your Intuition, which is a book that I wrote on intuition. I would highly recommend it, of course, to everybody.
Laura Hackel15:16:29
Crystal balls. Crystal balls.
Linda Manning15:16:46
Because it's fast and easy to read, and also it gives you great tips on tapping into your own intuition.
Laura Hackel15:16:53
And I have it too.
Linda Manning15:16:54
So Laura create. That's right. Laura has her own coffee. So Laura creates spaces where people come back to themselves, where they get to relax and be their authentic, actual human selves and through intuitive guidance.
and crystal bowl sound healing, and classes and workshops. She helps others trust what they feel, and reconnect with a deeper sense of aliveness and alignment.
So, already, hopefully, just by saying those words, you're starting to get a taste of what Laura brings, and feel a little more relaxed in your own body.
So, Laura, um, and, and listeners, this is, this is Laura Hackle Part 2, because, uh, Laura and I recorded a podcast, and somehow the, the Zoom gods didn't seem to like it that much, so I could not get it to.
Laura Hackel15:17:46
And.
Linda Manning15:17:46
to post, so we're doing it all over again from scratch. So welcome back, Laura!
Laura Hackel15:17:50
Thank you. It's great to be here. And I trust the universe, so I trust something magical will come out today.
Linda Manning15:17:51
Yeah.
Again.
Me too. I'm excited. All right, so, so I want to kind of weave different things today. Your past, your present, your future. But I think we'll start with the present this time to say, I know I have personally experienced your crystal bowls and.
It's very, uh…
very deep, very transformative, um, and I'm just curious to hear from you. How did you get on this path of playing the Crystal Bowls?
Laura Hackel15:18:26
Yeah, that was definitely the universe had a plan and they didn't clue me in on the plan until the last possible, possible moment. And so the context for me is that I would say that I'm not musical.
Linda Manning15:18:33
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:18:42
And that I grew up being the one in school that I had to lip sync in order for us to pass music class, because I cannot hold a tune. And I still can't hold a tune. And so, like all things musical, had been off the table for me for my whole life, but I enjoyed listening to music.
Linda Manning15:18:42
Mm.
Laura Hackel15:19:00
And I had a career in high tech and when I decided that it wasn't that anymore, I didn't know what it was, it wasn't that, I actually got, I went on a journey to figure out who I was. And you know, it sounds so easy, right? We're just gonna figure out who we are. Well, I'm still on that journey 20 something years later and it's been great and I'm still finding out things about myself.
Linda Manning15:19:04
Hmm.
Laura Hackel15:19:26
One of the things I found out is I'm famous for sleeping through the first year of healing school. So I went to healing school and a friend of mine ran it. So it was a little bit of a trigger to her that she would announce what we were going to focus on and I would be sound asleep. But I would wake up and be like, okay, whatever, it must have been what I needed.
Linda Manning15:19:36
Mm-hmm.
Resting that you got what you needed.
Laura Hackel15:19:48
Yeah, and that was, like, another act, like, that was a big stretch for me to have the faith, because I was living all in my head. And so when she had the opportunity to teach another class, she said, well, you want to come and help me teach the first year, because you slept through it all. And I was like.
Linda Manning15:20:03
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:20:06
Sounds like a good idea. So I went and, you know, I was comfortable helping her out, setting things up, whatever. And then, I don't know, a couple of sessions in, she gets everyone all set up for a meditation and announces that I'm going to play the crystal bowls.
And I have to literally pick my job off the floor. And I'm like, like a big part of me wants to say, no way, no way, no way, no way, I can't do it. And then something propelled me 'cause she had the crystal balls already in the room.
Linda Manning15:20:25
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:20:38
held me. So I sat down and I picked up the strikers and I just thought, okay, let's see. And as I began to chime the bowls, as they call it, I began to notice that I couldn't use my brain to solve this problem because my brain did not have the tools. It did not know music. It did not know notes. It didn't know the plan.
Linda Manning15:20:53
Hmm.
Laura Hackel15:21:00
And so I got to use something else, which was my intuition, which was my listening to where the bowls were vibrating, and my just taking a risk. And so I survived, everyone survived. Everyone's like, that was so beautiful, and I'm still traumatized. I'm like, okay.
And so that was my first experience and it really would have ended there because it was like, okay, I passed that hurdle. Only I had a yoga studio I went to and I walked in and the owner said.
I'm gonna do Sunday wellness events, and I've had a couple people that will do meditations. Can you think of something we could offer?
And like, I think for 30 seconds I said nothing 'cause in my head it was like, and finally I was like, I think I can get the balls here and I think I can play them. And she's like, great, how about Sunday the blah, blah, blah.
Linda Manning15:21:47
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:21:59
Okay. And so I was like, okay.
Linda Manning15:22:00
The universe was not going to let you off the hook. That's what I'm hearing, Laura.
Laura Hackel15:22:05
they were not, and so I show up, and then they doubled down. 20 people came to that workshop, and I was like, I don't even know what I'm doing! Like, that's the… that was the frame of mind that was in my head. But I knew enough about what I was doing, so I just did the same thing. I sat down and I started playing, and…
Linda Manning15:22:13
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:22:23
you know, my mind had a field day. But, um, because the vibrations of the bowls are so high, like, anything that's stuck can't help but leave. And the beautiful thing about it is, like, you can have an intention, and the bowls will work with that intention.
But just being in the room, something's going to shift for you. It doesn't even matter if you don't know what it is, something's going to shift because a lot of times energy for us, I like to think about it as like we pick up a bag and we pick up another bag and we pick up another bag and we don't ever put them down.
Like it's like you have to be conscious to say oh I'm carrying this bag and I get to put it down but mostly we just get used to the weight of the bag so we're walking around with a billion bags and the vibrations are basically being like oh you don't need this bag anymore we'll let that go and you can let this one go.
And, uh, so in the last couple weeks, the fun has been that, um, for one week, I had four different people in one week tell me, I slept so well last night. Like, they would come to the bowls, I slept so well last night, or after our session, I slept so well last night, and I always sleep so well after the bowls.
Linda Manning15:23:37
Wow.
Laura Hackel15:23:38
And then this week, everybody who I worked with, the first thing they said when I said, how are you? They're like.
I feel so light and free. And so it's such a cool feeling, and my brain still has to get used to that it's not in control, that I just get to go with what is. But it's this proof that.
Linda Manning15:23:46
Mmhm.
Laura Hackel15:24:01
You know, and it doesn't take forever. You know, a bowl session is generally an hour long with a group of people, or, you know, sometimes I'll play them just for 15 or 20 minutes for somebody, and the transformation is so powerful.
Linda Manning15:24:16
Oh, I heard so much good stuff in there, Laura, and I have lots of other questions. So, one thing that I heard was, um, sometimes the universe just opens up opportunities for us that we don't even know that we want.
You weren't even asking for it, but I'm sure you know it, right?
Laura Hackel15:24:31
Yeah, that we're sure we don't want. We're sure that we scare the shit out of us. Yes.
Linda Manning15:24:35
Another thing, though, you know, for any listeners who maybe have that same story, like, I'm not musical.
Right, that was your story, you had plenty of evidence, but yet, even not being musical, you were able to play the bowls.
Laura Hackel15:24:43
Mm.
Oh, yeah.
Linda Manning15:24:52
And so those limiting, that limiting belief could have stopped you, but it didn't. And I think that's always so important. And then you, the universe sort of created this opening for you to speak your truth of like, I play the bulls. And that almost opened a portal for you. It opened up.
Laura Hackel15:25:07
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Linda Manning15:25:09
this opportunity for you to then, because you did say it, and you did take that action, and you claimed it, that's how I would phrase it, then you were able to actually.
Laura Hackel15:25:17
Yep.
Linda Manning15:25:20
affect more people and get the feedback that, wow, this is amazing.
Laura Hackel15:25:26
Right, and the way, um, the other piece of that is that one of the reasons why my bowls are so powerful, or my sessions are so powerful, because sometimes.
Linda Manning15:25:38
Mm-hmm.
Laura Hackel15:25:41
And you can go and you can have a nice relaxing time. And my intention is always it's going to be healing. My intention is like whatever someone needs is going to come to the forefront. So it may not always be comfortable in the moment, and sometimes it's very relaxing. So it really depends on what we're in resistance to or not resistance to.
Linda Manning15:25:45
Mmm.
Laura Hackel15:26:03
But over time what I've come to see and notice is what makes them powerful is my energy directing their energy. It's the combination of us together, because if you took my bowls and someone else played them, they would play them differently, and they'd still be beautiful, but they would, and they would be different, because we each have our own.
like little niche or little, not even little big thing that we're here to do. So that's so clear to me. That was my like. Yes, you're meant to be a healer, and it probably took me 5 years to even claim that I was after that.
But yeah, so it's the intentionality behind it and just the energy that you bring to anything you do has everything to do with the outcome that you create.
Linda Manning15:26:46
So, just in case somebody who's listening is interested in trying the crystal balls themselves, what are some of the things you've learned from playing the balls? Like, if you were going to give someone advice on how to start playing them, what would you say?
Laura Hackel15:26:55
Oh.
Yeah, so what I would say is if you know somebody that has them or if you go visit a place, right, like a lot of times do it from your heart because you might walk into a place and say, well, I'm supposed to have a this, this, this, this, and this, like we could do all the research in the world.
Linda Manning15:27:17
Mmhm.
Laura Hackel15:27:26
But if you go in with your heart and you just allow yourself to play with it, like you can walk into a, there are a lot of alchemy bowls now are popular and they sound so beautiful and they are beautiful too.
Linda Manning15:27:38
Hmm.
Laura Hackel15:27:42
And if you walk into a Crystal Tones place, they have different studios, you can actually play with all of them. You know, you can actually just begin to gong them, or to, like, somebody will walk you through it. But a lot of.
Um, what I really recommend is that you connect with the bowl first. Like, you hold it, you connect with it.
Linda Manning15:28:01
Hmm. Hold on right there. Hold on right there. So what… how… if I want to connect with a bull, how do I do that?
Laura Hackel15:28:08
Well, I don't know, I have, like, a 22-inch bowl, and so I don't necessarily pick that one up, but I might sit right next to it. But a lot of the other bowls, the 10, 12-inch ones, so, like, just hold it, and take a breath in.
Linda Manning15:28:12
Okay.
Mmhm.
Laura Hackel15:28:23
and ask like.
What's your magic?
Like, are we meant to partner together? Like, what could we create together?
And the bowls are very, um…
you know, they're very… they can be very chatty. So they can be like, oh yeah, like, you'll pay me occasionally, or no, no, no, you really need to go talk to my friend the heart bowl, or you need to go talk to my friend the power center. So… but it's like this forming a connection with the bowl, because I think about the bowls as they're, like.
Linda Manning15:28:39
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:28:56
They're really divine beings in a physical form in our lifetime. And so they carry all of this innate wisdom with them. And so they get to be respected for that and that it is a partnership.
Because it is like they can't play without me and I can't play without them.
Linda Manning15:29:16
Yeah.
Laura Hackel15:29:18
But together we can create something really magical.
Linda Manning15:29:21
Wow, that's such an incredible way to look at crystal bowls. I don't think I've ever seen them quite that way. Now, a lot of, um, you know, bowls tend to be lined up, at least the initial set, with the chakras.
Laura Hackel15:29:27
Mmhm.
Linda Manning15:29:34
And I'm wondering for you, like, how does that impact or show up for you?
Laura Hackel15:29:35
They are. So the utility.
Yeah, so generally they are. They go from the root up to the crown.
So I went to, I'll tell you, I went to a sound healing class 10 years after I'd been playing the bowls, just because I wondered if there's anything I was missing. And I did learn a few things, mostly about music theory, that I didn't know.
Linda Manning15:29:53
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:30:05
But what you learn is like which ones tend to play well together. And so a lot of times it's actually the even ones, the two, four, and six, or the odd ones, the one, three, five, and seven that play well together, but there are no big rules.
Linda Manning15:30:11
Hmm.
Laura Hackel15:30:25
Like, and some people will play, and then let the sound really die down. And sometimes that works, and sometimes I'll be playing, and I'll be gonging other bowls at the same time, because it's like, we're opening your heart, but you need to be reminded that it's safe to open your heart, and that you have the power to do what you want, and so…
Linda Manning15:30:29
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Laura Hackel15:30:44
You know, like, there are these patterns that come about, and so it's just a matter of paying attention to what happens. And to this day, someone will say, that's a D-flat, or that's an F, and I don't know what it is, but what I do know is that… I mean, I do, because there's a little sticker in the bowl that tells me what it is, but I don't…
Linda Manning15:31:02
Helpful, yeah.
Laura Hackel15:31:04
I don't know what it is at a deep level, but what I know is when I gong one, or when I pick one up, I know that that one's mine, or that one belongs.
And even when I play, I play at a whole bunch of different yoga studios and in different places that require me to pack them up and move them around. And so between a friend of mine whose bowls live in the same place mine live, we probably have 15 or 16 or 17 bowls, something like that.
So I'm not going to bring all of them all the time, and they're not all Colin.
Linda Manning15:31:38
Right, that's a lot. Some of them are pretty heavy.
Laura Hackel15:31:43
Yeah, but what I'll do is I'll sit down and I'll gong them, and then I'll know, oh, these ones want to go today, and I'll bring some combination of it. And so it is this…
You know, there's a whole other world below the conscious world that we see.
Um.
Linda Manning15:32:00
Wow, that's so fascinating. If, um, so I have a set of crystal bowls, uh, and so I'm thinking, uh, that I should probably spend a little more time chatting with them. Do they, do they talk to you in the, while you're playing the bowls, are they talking to you, or is that more.
Laura Hackel15:32:01
Hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Linda Manning15:32:17
you're not maybe hearing them that way, you're intuitive. What happens to you when you're playing polls?
Laura Hackel15:32:22
Yeah, so for me, it's a…
It's a resonance.
So it's like I'm hearing like that's something and resonance can be really pleasing.
Linda Manning15:32:33
Mm-hmm.
Laura Hackel15:32:35
like building on each other, and it can be kind of at cross purposes.
Linda Manning15:32:37
Yeah. Okay.
Laura Hackel15:32:40
And there are times where both of them come into play that I'll just get like more of this or more of that, or I'll gong one and I'll be like, Oh, that one. And then I'll gong one. I'll be like, okay, not that one, this one. So it's, it's more of an intuitive.
Just like I'll and I'll feel it like when I start to feel it through my body.
Linda Manning15:32:59
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, does it… does sort of the ones that feel like… oh, do the yeses feel different than the noes, maybe, in your body?
Laura Hackel15:33:09
Yeah, but to me, they feel… and this is really weird, because, like I said, I don't hold myself as musical, but they… I feel… I hear it as harmony. I hear it as, like, I hear it as alignment, even though I wouldn't be able to describe to you what that feels… you know, what I hear.
But I think it's, I hear it as alignment, and then I know, or I hear it as…
disruption that needs to be disrupted, like, like, okay, so it's almost like I'm always getting messages.
Linda Manning15:33:35
It needs to be broken or it needs to be shifted. Yeah.
Laura Hackel15:33:40
Right, and it's not just the bowls, I have a rain stick, I have a lightning drum, which is wild, and I have, you know, seed pods and other chimes and other instruments, and they'll go on rolls where I'll be playing one for 2 or 3 or 4 sessions in a roll.
a row, and then I won't play it again for another month or so, and so it all has to do with who shows up. So the energy's always meeting whoever shows up in the environment.
Linda Manning15:34:10
Have you ever said, oh, I think this is my intention for tonight, and then you get there, and that goes right out the window, and something different comes in?
Laura Hackel15:34:21
I have had, you know, I have had, so one of the things that I often do is beforehand I'll have a reading, like one of my favorite books is "The Pivot Year" by Brianna Weist.
And it's basically 365 days, and she leads you through a journey. And as you read, like, my brother's reading it, I gave it to him as a gift, and he started at the beginning, and he and his wife read one every day and talk about it, and that's awesome.
Linda Manning15:34:41
Mmhm.
Laura Hackel15:34:54
I have a, like, question, and I open the book to a page, and then my question gets answered, and so before a bowl session, I'll open that book, or another book, or cards, and I'll just be like, what does the group need to hear? Like, what is it about?
And sometimes it starts that way, and then it goes somewhere else, and I've learned to flow with it, because I'm not… I'm not dependent on whatever I started with. But for the most part, what happens in the energy is, imagine that… that the bowls are playing, and I'm talking, and there are 20 people in a room.
And every single person is having a very different experience. I'm playing the same bowls.
Linda Manning15:35:34
Right.
Laura Hackel15:35:37
Like, but everyone's having a different experience, because I'm tied into, I've invited in, you've invited in all your guides and angels, and so…
People will say, oh, like when you said this tonight about things that I never said.
Linda Manning15:35:51
Huh.
They heard it even though you didn't say it.
Laura Hackel15:35:53
You know, or like, it's so…
They heard it because they're hearing it in the energy or their guides are talking to them. And so, you know, so I've also learned I don't need to micromanage it or trust it and I don't need to argue and say I never said that. I just get to acknowledge that that's what they heard because that's what they needed to hear in the moment.
Linda Manning15:36:06
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
I would love to hear a little bit more about, um, because you talked about, you know, using them for healing, so… so I hear you kind of opening up the book to see what the theme is for the night, and really tapping into the group. Is there anything else that, or a way that you tend to phrase your intentions?
Laura Hackel15:36:22
Hmm. Okay.
Yeah, so I actually encourage everyone to have their own intention.
Right? So, so that's a, the, like, what are they, what are they calling for into their lives? But one of the things that I found is that most of us, like, I know this is true for me, I don't, I can sometimes struggle to have an intention.
Linda Manning15:36:56
Mm-hmm.
Laura Hackel15:36:57
Until I've released some things.
Linda Manning15:36:58
Mmm.
Laura Hackel15:37:01
So a session often looks like there's something inspirational and then it's like, okay, so what's in the way of you loving yourself completely? Or what's in the way of you being at peace? And if I asked you that in a common conversation, first of all, I'd have to know you really well, right? Because it's not everyday dinner conversation.
Linda Manning15:37:19
Right.
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:37:24
um, even if I… if… even if I knew you well and I asked you, you might be like, I don't know, because that's the… that's the defense response is, I don't know. But if I ask you that in a session, like, what pattern, belief, idea, or feeling.
Linda Manning15:37:29
Right.
Laura Hackel15:37:42
Are you here to release tonight? People know.
Linda Manning15:37:44
Mmhm.
Laura Hackel15:37:46
Like, the guides are… the guides are jumping up and down on everybody, going, fear, or attachment, or control, or whatever it is. And by the same token, when I…
You know, invariably at some point ask some version of like, what is the universe calling for you to bring more of into your life? Because the thing that I'm so clear about is we are all divine beings, but we're raised in a society that's like, we are our own unit, right? And we have control, like if we can control, then we can be safe in this world.
Linda Manning15:38:09
Mm-hmm.
Laura Hackel15:38:20
Which is a beautiful illusion.
Linda Manning15:38:21
Mm-hmm.
Laura Hackel15:38:23
But the whole idea of, like, connecting back to… there's all of these possibilities that exist for us. Which ones do we want to activate? Which ones do we want to call in?
And, you know, and it's the same thing. I'll often have a segment where we're doing a gifting, where their guides are handing them a gift. And sometimes it's a word, sometimes it's a phrase, sometimes it's a color, sometimes nobody even heard that they were being gifted. Like, it's all…
Linda Manning15:38:50
Okay.
Laura Hackel15:38:52
it's all good, but it's everyone… everyone is on such a frequency, like, they're tied into what they most need in the moment. And that's the beauty of it, because we would think, like, it's one size fits all.
But it's really not because if you think about as we're growing up and we have all of these experiences that happen to us, we store them in different places. Like I might have been ignored as a kid and I turn that into making sure I'm visible or I might have turned that into hiding out and making sure it's safe. Like we all have different reactions to life.
Linda Manning15:39:20
Uh-huh.
Right.
Laura Hackel15:39:30
And so there's some really beautiful YouTube and Instagram videos that are showing you the science of it because we think about it, oh, it's nice, but the science behind it is really wild of how it actually works.
And that if you think about this idea, like, our beliefs create our reality. Well, they create our reality because our beliefs create the energy field around us.
Linda Manning15:39:58
Mm-hmm.
Laura Hackel15:40:00
And when we're clearing that energy field, then we have room for a new belief. Like, we're not attached to that same old belief, so it's a different way of approaching it. And there's one YouTube video that has a, like, an extra long trumpet.
Linda Manning15:40:14
Uh-huh.
Laura Hackel15:40:16
And out of the trumpet has all of these, like, little holes. And then as the music plays, you can watch the fire dancing up and down, because the fire's dancing in concert with the vibration. And… and it's like that's what's happening in our physical body, like, everything is.
Linda Manning15:40:23
Hmm. Okay.
And.
Laura Hackel15:40:35
dancing around at different vibrations and letting go and bringing in and aligning. And it's just, uh, we're not, we're not trained to look at that. We're not trained to experience that or even look for that.
Linda Manning15:40:49
Wow, so it sounds like, um…
you really have some magical experiences, and the people in your audience have some magical experiences when they're listening to you playing the Crystal Bowls.
Laura Hackel15:41:03
Mm-hmm.
Linda Manning15:41:04
So, I want to give listeners… I have a very, very exciting thing, which is you guys also get to have the opportunity to hear Laura playing her crystal bowls. So, if you go to the show notes, you will see a link to, um, that will actually go to her.
Laura Hackel15:41:05
Yeah.
Linda Manning15:41:21
to her site, and she has a special free session that she recorded that you can get. So if you want to hear Laura playing the crystal balls and have your own experience of it, I would highly recommend it.
then, um, go check it out, it's in the show notes. Um, is there a website that's… that's best for them to… to go to, Laura?
Laura Hackel15:41:44
Yeah, they can find it at joyouslyalive.com. And then it's in…
Linda Manning15:41:47
Okay, joyouslyalive.com. Okay.
Laura Hackel15:41:51
Yeah, and then it's kind of in a funny place. It's under books, but under books, a book has a crystal bowl recording that goes with it that's already on that page. Exactly.
Linda Manning15:41:54
Ah.
We're gonna work on that, on that web page there for you, Laura. Okay, but go to joyouslyalive.com, and under books, you'll see, you'll get, you'll have access to, um, to an amazing recording.
Laura Hackel15:42:05
Like books. Hmm.
Linda Manning15:42:11
Um, alright, well, I mean, this has been amazing. I've learned so much, even though I've known you for a long time, and I've experienced you playing the crystal balls, I feel like I learned, um, even more things about it. Is there anything else that you want to share with the listeners? Anything that you want to make sure they understand about you, or the crystal balls, or how they can grow?
Laura Hackel15:42:12
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so, um, so I think the bowls are the most… my experience of the bowls is that they're the most powerful when we do have an intention or something we're working on, and, um, because it's like when we declare, like, I want peace, or I'm open to abundant flow.
then it's like the energy can go… the bowls can go take out the stuff that's in the way of it. And so it's a beautiful process for that.
And sometimes we're not quite sure what we want. Like if you'd asked me, like I still struggle with what do I want? Like when I ask that question, I have to do the shortcut, which is my husband would say, well, what do you want for your birthday? And I'd be like.
I don't know. And then he'd plan something, and I'd think, not that. But it wasn't his fault, right? But… because I couldn't say what I wanted. So then I finally realized, like, oh, who do I know.
Linda Manning15:43:17
Hehehe.
Right.
Laura Hackel15:43:27
that always knows what she wants. So I have a friend. Her name is Di, and she is clear about what she wants, and she'll celebrate herself. She'll tell you what she wants. So then my husband would say, Well, what do you want? And I'd be like, Give me 10 min, and I'd literally walk out of the room.
because I had to be somewhere on my own, because my brain was really active, and I'd be like, okay, what would Di want? She'd want a party, she'd want dancing, she'd want this, she'd want that, blah blah blah, and then I'd go, okay, is there any of that that I want? Well, I'd like a party, but I'd like it to be more like this.
Linda Manning15:43:42
No.
If I were to die.
Laura Hackel15:44:00
like, so it gave me, like, I didn't have a neural pathway to my wants, so I had to jump over them and jumpstart them, and then over time it became clear. And so I love to work with people who are also on their journey of remembering who they are and getting to know themselves more deeply. And so, too.
Linda Manning15:44:05
Mmhm.
Laura Hackel15:44:23
nights a month. I have a drop-in class called Joyfully Present and, yeah, Joyfully Present and Alive. And it's basically where you come and we explore something first from the.
from the mental space. Like, we explore it, and we do it in a group, and so it's… it's like, I'll bring something to the table, everyone gets to reflect on it, and they get to share, and of course, when everyone's, like, sharing, everybody else is like, oh yeah, me too.
Yeah, me too. Like, oh, I feel that way too. Or I experienced that. And so it's a way of being able to get us to know what's in the way consciously. And also, what is it that we want to declare it? And then, um, then I, I do the healing with the crystal bowls on the session as well. So that's available to anyone. They don't have to actually show up.
Linda Manning15:45:01
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Laura Hackel15:45:16
in Massachusetts somewhere, or wherever the Bulls and I are, and…
Linda Manning15:45:18
Oh, so it's a Zoom session? Oh, great. All right, well, I need to make sure we can put the link to that.
Laura Hackel15:45:22
It's on Zoom. Yeah, it's on Zoom.
Linda Manning15:45:27
In the show notes too.
Laura Hackel15:45:30
Mm-hmm, yeah. So yeah, so my message is like, it's never too late to start starting.
Linda Manning15:45:37
Hehehe.
Laura Hackel15:45:39
Because especially like I'm in my 60s now, and people, I know people who are in the conversation of like, but I'm like 60 and like life is over. And I'm like, uh-uh, it's just beginning to you. You could live 40 more years. Like, what do you want to do with your 40 more years? And if they turn into just 10, well, what did you want to do with those 10?
Linda Manning15:45:49
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Great. You've still lived a great 10 years then.
Laura Hackel15:46:01
Yeah, but I do find that that's a, you know, that period with, especially if, um, moms whose kids are now having their own lives, and yet our kids were so much a part of our lives, and now they're not. It's like, okay, so now that we have the time, how do we explore what.
Linda Manning15:46:06
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Laura Hackel15:46:18
What lights us up?
Linda Manning15:46:19
Right. Yes, you and I have both been through that, through that journey. All right, well, this has been fantastic, Laura. Thank you so much. And listeners, I hope you enjoyed learning about crystal bowls from Laura, and also, hopefully, you enjoy hearing them.
Laura Hackel15:46:23
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Linda Manning15:46:37
Uh, when she plays them, and you can go to her website to find out more.
Uh, so, let's see. I'm just gonna make sure I didn't forget anything from my notes.
Um, yeah, you get to have a unique crystal ball experience to help you clear what's in the way of your joy. That's when she is recorded and reconnect with your inner wisdom and open to be more present and a live way of being. So, that sounds pretty awesome.
Laura Hackel15:46:50
Thank you.
Linda Manning15:47:03
All right, so listeners, um, you know, hopefully you found so much benefit in even just the vibration of talking to Laura and feeling the crystal ball energy coming through the, through the podcast to you.
Hopefully it was a powerful experience, and you will go and have some crystal bowl healing time for yourself.
So thank you so much, Laura.
Laura Hackel15:47:29
Thank you.