Episode Summary Linda Manning hosts embodied pleasure coach Meenal Kelkar for a candid conversation about women's sexuality, body wisdom, and reclaiming desire. Meenal shares her personal journey — from surviving assault and experiencing a frozen body to rediscovering pleasure and passion in her 37-year marriage. She explains how both big-T and little-t traumas get stored in the body, and how "micro-residue" from long-term relationships (unspoken hurts, brushed-off compliments, accumulated disappointments) can quietly shut down desire and receptivity. Meenal introduces the concept of "pussy wisdom" as a grounding, body-based source of intuition distinct from the mind, and offers practical tools — including a two-minute emotional release exercise — for clearing that residue. The episode closes with a message of hope: pleasure and aliveness are available at any age, and reconnecting with the body can ripple out into every area of life.
Episode Notes
Welcome to Trust Your Wisdom, the podcast for people who want soul alignment, spiritual growth, and maybe just one clear sign from the universe that they're on the right track. I'm Linda Manning. Let's get into it. Hello, listeners. This is Linda Manning. Before we begin, I wanna thank today's sponsor, ignite Your Intuition, a powerful and easy to access book designed to help you strengthen and trust your intuitive skills.
Whether you're just beginning to explore your intuition or looking to deepen your connection, it's a beautiful resource and a thoughtful gift for anybody ready to tune in more deeply to themselves. Now, I am truly so excited for today's conversation. I know it's gonna be amazing. Because I am speaking with embodied pleasure coach Menal Kar, who I've known for several years, um, and we're diving into an open, honest, and empowering discussion about women's sexuality, including topics that are related to body and desire and pleasure.
So before we continue, here's a gentle disclaimer. This episode may contain mature content and may not be suitable for younger listeners or those who find these topics to be sensitive or uncomfortable. So please make sure you're in a private space and if you feel open to engaging in candid conversation about bodies, women's bodies, or partnership bodies and sexuality.
So if that sounds aligned and exciting to you, it definitely does to me, then this is gonna be a powerful eye-opening conversation. Alright, so as I said, Nina and I met a few years ago, but I get to interview her now and deep dive and learn so much more about her. So welcome, Nina. Thank you, Linda. Thanks so much.
I'm so excited to be here. Me too. Alright, so before we dive into some of your current work, I'd just love to get a little bit of background on you. So talk to me about what your path was to becoming an Embodied Pleasure coach, which is such a juicy title in and of itself. Well, so for me it's come out of my.
Own personal lived experience I had. I was assaulted when I was a teenager, and then again about two years into my marriage. And what I didn't realize at the time was that I shut everything down. I took all of my eroticism, all of my sensuality, and I just locked it up in a box deep in my body. And when I turned 30.
And my parents basically started bugging us. It's like, we wanna have grandkids. When are you gonna give us grandkids? And um, and my husband and I decided it's like, well, let's actually deal with the elephant in the room. Why aren't we having sex? Because we're great friends and we always have been. And um, and so that really set me down a path of about.
10 years, I'll say going the western route with therapy and hormones and that type of thing. And being told numerous times, oh, just have a glass of wine and relax and, and later I found my way into what I'm gonna call a more somatic and body-based approach, which really is what I needed. And even then, it's like sometimes.
I really envy at times. I really envy the women who it's like, oh yeah, all I needed was testosterone and that got my libido up again. And for me it's never, I've never found the, like the magic bullet. Um, and so what it's done is that once you eliminate the obvious. Then you really have to start looking at the other things that are not so obvious.
And so that's the area that my life and my body have led me as well as my husband is, is into the not so obvious and, and it feels like, like that's really where, for me, that's where the juice lies. But then also I think for many women, that's where the answer also lies. So I'm almost hearing, and I know we'll get to it, but I, I hear hope in what you're saying because you know, obviously we know like trauma, especially trauma to the body Yeah.
Can be carried in the body, but even other traumas that aren't to the body can also be carried in the body. Right. And that's the thing. That's what's so exciting is that I think there's like a huge awareness now around this that there can be that big tr big T trauma, which is what happened in my case, but there's also the little t traumas that we don't even realize that somehow the other, there's this impact that happens in the body and it doesn't actually.
Flow all the way through. Mm-hmm. And so the way I experience it and the way I often see it in women's bodies is that there's something that's stuck. There's something that's locked. There's something that's like wanting to move that isn't quite able to move. And once we're able to like. Like unlock that.
There's like a fluided, I'm gonna say like a fluidness that comes back into her body and like a, a vitality, it's like this glow that comes from the inside. That to me is really exciting. You know, and as you're talking about it, even just expressing it, it, you know, it feels like as we charge up or flow more, um, release trauma, flow more with our bodies, it affects all parts of our life.
Yeah. Yeah. And so we get to kind of step more fully into all parts of our life. Exactly. Exactly. Alright, well tell me, um, so obviously you kind of came to this and, and let's face it, that's how it is with many people, right? We come to our great mm-hmm. Gifts through our own challenge, through the challenges that we have experienced.
So you experienced some, some challenges, but you talked about the somatic way. Of, you know, after you'd sort of done the medical route that you do, you know, and for, and listeners, if you don't know this, somatic really means through the body. Right. And so talk to, talk to me a little bit about kind of what was your path or what did you learn that helped unlock some of these mysteries that were inside of you?
Well, so for example, like part of what I learned and sometimes like this was guided by my body, but then other times it was. It was, you know, being in front of the right teacher at the right time to hear the message that I needed to hear. But for example, like one of the moments that I recall really vividly was I had already dealt with a lot of the trauma.
Had unraveled it had revisited, it had done somatic experiencing, which now a lot of people have heard of and had gone back and really allowed my body to tell the story that my mind had kind of summarized in terms of those assaults and unlocking things, like really listening deeply to the body. And, but what I found though was that still when my husband, Chris would touch me.
There was almost this quality of like I was being, I was wrapped in cellophane, that I could feel his touch. Originally. I couldn't actually feel him touching me, like that's how frozen my body was. Like that's how contracted my body had been. But now I could feel him touching me, which was exciting and it was progress, but it was, I couldn't feel my body receiving him.
And so that like sent me off on a quest, um, and I see this particular pattern over and over again. Which is that when we've been in long-term relationship, even one that's really strong, that's even really loving, they're these tiny little micro, I'm gonna call them micro insults. Mm-hmm. Or micro betrayals or micro hurts or micro things that, oh, I should have said that thing and I didn't.
And all of those actually get stuck and lodged in our bodies. And so over time. That then becomes like this layer, I call it almost like this layer of residue that's on top of the desire, that's on top of the sensation and, and then we stop. Oftentimes as women, we don't even realize, but we stop receiving our husbands.
And that just like, I almost feel teary eyed because no one ever taught me that. Like, no one ever taught me what the cost was of not speaking up and not saying the thing when I, when the thing happened, and that there was actually a, a penalty that I would pay in this residue. And so this is actually like one of the things that I help women do is like.
Let's start moving that residue. Sometimes we have expectations around how our partners supposed to behave and when they don't behave that way, we have like a bunch of emotions around it. And, and like those emotions don't get expressed. And so it's not that there are times, yeah, when legitimately something happens that was wrong, but oftentimes there are these micro little things, misunderstandings or, um.
Like I said, hurts like I, I, I thought he was gonna get me this for my birthday and he didn't. And um, and it just, it just accumulates. And so what happens when we start to like take away that accumulation, that residue and it's like, and our bodies start to wake up again. Alright, so you just talked about a couple of really interesting things that I wanna to point out and hone in on.
So, because one part of what you're talking about is those long-term relationships. Yeah. That when you're with someone, and of course for some people six months is a long-term relationship, but, but you know, when you're in years and decades, and I know I'm in that situation, um, you are right. Like things, you know, even if you didn't have the traumas like you did, like I just wanna point out to the listeners, like, this is relevant for, for all kinds of people, right?
You don't have to have been through a difficult, um, traumatic experience to go, yeah, you know what? Those little micro annoyances. Add up and those little, you know, disappointments can actually accumulate and none of them maybe are so bad that it feels like you have a right to be mad, but somehow the accumulation lands there.
Mm-hmm. Right. So, so a lot of hearing like, like how is it, um. So, you know, for anyone, any listener who's like, oh yeah, that's me. Like I've been in this relationship, and it sort of feels like, what is the feeling for most women at that point? Is it just a blah or a lack of desire or what is your experience with that?
I think it shows up in a bunch of different ways. Sometimes it's a, a blah sometimes. Sometimes I think women can get like really annoyed and frustrated. Like it gets to the point where they're just like. About ready to blow their top and the poor husband has no clue what, what this might be about. Um, I think also it can show up as numbness.
Mm-hmm. Um, it can show up as loss of desire. Um, it can show up as, and this is a pattern that I see a lot, um, that results from this residue is that. She stops, like I said it before, she stops receiving her husband. Like, how many times have you seen? And I like, I, I used to do this so much and this has been my practice just to change this pattern, but your husband tries to tell you, it's like, oh, I love that color of lipstick on you.
And you're like, oh, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like, you know, this whole thing. Or you know, or you, you know, you're just saying that, but there's a way in which it's like. He is trying to actually like, compliment us, reach out or gift you and reach out. Yeah. I mean, like, that's like, like he's like, he's offering us like a little, you know, piece of love or like he's, he's actually risking himself to say, it's like, oh, you know, hey babes.
It's like, you look beautiful today. And we're like, oh yeah. Like we just, we brush it off and it's like, but then yet there's this expectation. It's like. Well, he should continue doing that. Well, how many times do I have to brush him off before he stops doing it? Right. Right. And and we don't even see that.
We don't even know that because it's so common and we haven't taught, been taught how to do it differently. Well, I think part of that too is like the blame game, right? Yeah. Like the reason that I don't respond is because of how you are. Right. Instead of, huh, what's going on inside of me that I'm not receiving that.
Yeah. So what do you do like in a, you know, um, 'cause I know you work with pee, right? You work with women and you, I think you work with couples. I work mostly working with women. Right now I'm, I'm kind of, yeah, I was working with couples for a while and now I'm with my, um. I, I got my pleasure coaching certification with Mama Gina a year ago, and there is something about her tools that really get to the heart of a woman's turn on that I figure, you know, if I can focus on the woman, there's a way in which the man, when he's really receptive, and he might need a little help in it, but it's like once he, once he starts to wake up and realize like, oh, like.
She wants me like, like if it's a good thing when she's this turned on, um, yeah, it just kind of, things fall, fall into place is what I notice, so. Okay, great. So you're mostly working now with women and women in relationships? Women in what? What's your, what's your, yeah. Women. So women in long-term relationship where the love is strong and the sex is gone and they're terrified that this is now how life is just gonna be.
Yeah. And so I'm excited about understand that problem to be hard. You have a quick diagnosis of me here. No, we don't have to do that, but,
but I love that line where the love is strong with the sex is gone, right? Like that sort of speaks to, to so many women's experience I think. Right. And we, and we put it down to, uh, menopause, which is actually, I think also a real effect in all of this, right? Like, you know, when your hormones really radically change your experience of your body changes.
Right. You know, so we, we don't wanna discount that 'cause that's a real thing. And I'm hearing menopause are not menopause. There's these other factors to really consider. Right. Well, and it's like. There's this, what I see over and over again is that we, as women are taught to either lead from our head or lead from our heart, and we forget about the lower part of our body.
Like there's a whole wisdom center, which I, I happen to call pussy because in deference, in honor of my, um, mentor, one of my many mentors, and, um. It's like we walk around as if that doesn't exist and yet, like this is where we create babies from. Yeah. You know, this is like a center of pleasure. This is a wisdom center.
It's our grounding. I mean, it's all the way down at the bottom of my pelvis. It's like if I don't include that, if I don't move from that, then it's like the it, it's almost like. There's no way to, to, I'm gonna say upend or change those other patterns that I'm in. So a lot of what I work with, with women is also is like how to come all the way down into your pussy, how to develop a new relationship to her, how to distinguish her voice, her wisdom voice from the other sources of wisdom that we have within us.
Um, how to bring pleasure back in. Um, well, you know, this podcast is called Trust Your Wisdom. So let's talk about the pussy wisdom, right? Okay. We, we talk about all different kinds of spirit wisdom and, you know, all kinds of things. So what's your, you know, how do women, if women are like, wow, this is really intriguing.
How do I get in touch with that wisdom? What does that wisdom even sound like? What do you, what do you tell them? Well, I tell them, she speaks in a lot of different ways. Mine. Mine is actually quite funny.
Um, mine. So what, what I would suggest to women is this is like, if you're sitting on a chair like I am, is just like rock your pelvis back and forth. I, and you can just bring your attention down to your pussy, like your clitoris or your labia, your vulva, like that area. Oftentimes when we. Think about like sitting in our pelvis, we're, we're guided to feel our sits bones.
And so this is gonna be like in the center in between your legs and just like you can bring your attention there or you can just bring your hand like a few inches in front. And then just notice if you begin to feel like maybe a little bit of warmth or a little bit of like tingling or. So then you just know it's like, she's like, okay, she's waking up.
She's waking up. And so for me, I. I had to start with, you know, I kept hearing about Pussy voice, pussy voice, and I'm like, I'm like how? I have a really strong mind and my mind questions everything. And so I did this little experiment and I don't know if you're familiar with muscle testing or like using a pendulum.
Yeah. So I was using a pendulum and I would ask, and someone who knew, a friend of mine who knew NLP told me this. She said, when you. Um, when you point your eyes upward, it's because you are accessing knowledge from your brain. If you point your eyes downward, then you're actually actually accessing, um, your body.
And so what I would do with the pendulum is I would look upwards and I would ask, am I connected to my head? And it would say yes. Mm-hmm. And then I would look down and I'd say, am I connected to my pussy? A after I had done that little wake up. Mm-hmm. And then I'd wait until I got a yes. And then I would ask and I would actually.
Notice, what is the difference between the answer I'm getting from my head versus the answer that I'm getting from my pussy? And what I found, getting back to your question about pussy voice, is my pussy's a little outrageous, and she's a little daring, a little more so than my mind likes to think that I am.
And so for a long time, and I apologize because I'm gonna say a swear word, but for a long time I knew it was her voice because my mind would be like. You want us to do what? What the fuck do you want us to do? And it took me a while to figure out that It's like, as soon as I heard that response from my head, I'm like, okay, I need to go do that thing because there's, and, and it was always this leap of faith because it made no rational sense.
That's why I was getting this response from my head. But there was something there that I need to go experience. There was something with that particular teacher that I needed to learn. There was something in that tantra workshop that, but I gotta tell you, it's like my pussy's been relentless in, I'm gonna say, taking me to the places and the teachers that I've needed to study with that there's no way.
Like on my own that I would've gotten there. It's like she was like the stand for me waking up both in terms of my belief systems, in terms of my, um, yeah, my aliveness, like, like deepening that connection with her. And it just, it's taken me on this really while to journey. Hmm. So it sounds like, you know, when you, when you trust in that, in that wisdom down there and you follow that, it's like worlds open up to you that wouldn't open up just from your head.
Yeah. Yeah. That's what I find. And what I find as well is that because so many women, myself included, like I was, I would call myself, um. In an over giver, and I'd always lose myself in the equation. Like I'd give so much that I was depleted. Yeah. And once I started, including my pussy voice, because her voice is much more grounded, it was still a loving voice, but she was like, she's like, wait, think of yourself.
Like, include yourself. Like don't keep leaving yourself out of the mix. And so what I find is that her voice in many ways is more. Um, is more caring because she's not gonna ask me to kill myself. Yeah. For anyone else. Well, it sounds like there's a lot of self caring, there's caring for others, but there's a lot of mm-hmm.
Self caring that's going with that too. That maybe was missing from, from your head. And you know, I think a lot of women Right, are brought up to be caregivers. Exactly. And that we don't always include ourselves in that package. And so like having that voice remind you over and over, like, no, you count too.
No, you count too. And like, think about like how. Challenging a message that is for someone who's used to defining herself by all the things that she does for everyone else. Yeah. It's like, it means that she has to start saying no. Yeah. It means that she has to start like tending to her energy as if she herself has value and worth, which she does.
Clearly she does, but sometimes like our actions don't. Um. I'm gonna say aren't quite aligned with that because if I keep giving of my cell until I'm completely depleted, then there's a way in which it's like I haven't, I've left myself out. Is is kind of how I describe it. But also I think if we define our value through what we contribute to others, yeah.
Then when we're. I mean, I, I believe that self-care is contributing to others, right? Like, if you fill your own bucket, then you actually have more to give. So, you know, but, but it isn't always framed that way, or we don't always think about it that way. We might think about it as like, no, I have to give until, you know, until I'm drained.
Right? Instead of like, right. You know, self-care is really part of the value. Like I value myself and that makes me a better giver to the universe. Exactly. So how is, um, I'm just curious to know how some of this has impacted your marriage. So you were studying with Mama Gina, you were becoming a pleasure coach and, you know, an embodied, um, pleasure.
Yeah, an embodied pleasure coach. So tell me how, what, what has changed in your marriage? Well, what's changed in our marriage is that after such a long time where Chris had to like. When a body's in, um, a state of freeze, the way I describe it, it's almost like an animal that's like really terrified. You can't, you have to be really careful about how you approach it, because if you come too fast, chances are it'll either attack you or it'll run away.
Mm-hmm. But so really what you have to do is you have to like. Sit and be with it until like the trust starts to come, and then the animal will come towards you. And that's what we had to learn to do with, with my body for a long time. And so the past, I wanna say like six, six years have been about how do he, how does he and I make the transition from him?
Holding space for me and being my healer, one of my many healers to him being my lover. And it's, it's been challenging for both of us. Again, you know, a, a change in identity. Right. Um. Him realizing it's like, oh, after all these years of me telling you, no, you can't move too fast now I'm like, oh, I want you to ravage me.
And he, you know, part of hims like, wait, what? But, but he's gotten on board. Um, so yeah. So after this very long journey that's actually taken up most of our marriage, um, it, we are now in the most passionate, connected chapter of our 37 years together. And so I'm just excited and I'm excited not just for us, but like, it's like I know that it's like if, if he and I could do it, it's like I can show others how to do it as well.
Yeah. So what, like if you were going to give, uh, let's like drop a, drop a wisdom bomb, like if you were gonna drop some wisdom on the listeners of, of something that, like, something you really wanna make sure they take away. From our conversation, what are some of your key messages that you really wanna make sure people get?
I want women to, I really want women to know that their body's actually their partner and your body's doing the best that she can at any given time. And so I went through many years like. Really blaming my body because she wasn't, you know, responding fast enough and getting hot fast enough and, you know, and having this ravenous desire and things like that.
And, and it's like, no. And so in doing that, it's like there was a way in which it's like I couldn't meet what was actually happening. It's not like she wasn't doing anything. She was doing things different than what I expected. Hmm. Yeah. What I really want women to learn is that it's like their body's actually a very wise partner in their life and she is a source of wisdom.
She's communicating to you all the time, and it's a matter of like learning how to understand that and then take action on it, but then also learning to trust her again. Because I think there's a broken trust piece that we go through when we've had, yeah. When she's just not doing things the way we want her to do it.
Right. And there's like, you know, so many, I don't wanna go too far down this road 'cause there's so many reasons for that, right? It's everything from experiences like you had to just social media to, you know, like, there's so many reasons I think we live in, in self-judgment around our bodies instead of self love.
Yeah, so that power of self-love, you know, I wanna um, go back to something we were talking about earlier 'cause you were talking about those like, like micro, um, annoyances we'll call or whatever that build up and, and kind of can, can, can, can create a barrier I think between you and your, and your partner.
If somebody's, you know, having that experience, what is one thing that you might suggest that they do to try and, and get rid of some of that? Probably often longstanding. Longstanding, right? It's the 20th time they forgot to gimme flowers. Right. They always put me over the edge. Right. Well, usually it's like when I am, when I'm working with, so this is the thing is that.
As long as there's emotional charge that, how do I say it? That microaggression has not come to completion. Mm-hmm. So if you know that you're complaining about it, then it's like you're still holding it in your body and the fact that you're running emotion around it means that it's still there. Like it's running.
It's actually there. And so oftentimes what I'll have people do, uh, so I have different tools that I'll use, but it's like, one thing that I like doing is I'll set a timer for two minutes. And I will say every nasty thing that I need to say. Like, but you know, I make sure that he's not there because this isn't about him.
This is about like, what's stuck in me and it's my thoughts, it's my opinions, it's my judgments. Um, it's my feelings. And so one of the ways that I'll clear myself is make sure he is not there. I'll set the timer for two minutes and then I will just run off at the mouth and I will say it as fast as I can, as nasty as I can.
Like just say the thing, say the thing that I'm scared to say, but say it so fast that it's almost gibberish. And what that does is it, it allows the charge to move. Hmm. And usually at the, on the other side of that storm, that charge, there's almost like oftentimes I, I feel I experience it like, you know how it's crisp and clear outside after a storms move through.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that same quality in my body. And, and then I, I, answers will come to me and insights will come to me that I didn't even have before. It's sort of the, uh, there's a term I've heard name it, to tame it. Mm-hmm. Like you have to, you have to name it first, right? You can't just, like, it doesn't just go away on its own.
It has to have the space to be named. Right. But once it's been named, then that opens up the possibility for shifting your understanding of it. Asking some different questions of yourself. Like there's so many thing places we can go, but until we give ourselves permission to name it, it's just stuck. It stuck.
Yeah. And I, and I wanna actually adjust that slightly because I know in a lot of Buddhist teachings, which I've studied had, was studying for a while. There's a way in which they'll talk about, like witnessing and naming something. Mm-hmm. And this is slightly different because. There's a distance that's happening in that witness space, and so here I'm actually wanting to go into it and name it, name it as if like, like I'm literally like just like embodied and that embodied naming experiences.
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Because what I'm really trying to do is I'm trying to. It's almost like it, it's almost like the words get to a place where the words don't matter. What I'm really trying to do is it's a somatic practice of moving the emotional charge. Hmm. And that actually is one of the things that will, will start clearing that residue.
That sounds great. Sounds powerful. So, um, so mino, if somebody feels like, okay, that's great for you, but I might need some support around this. Like, I don't know how to do that myself. Do you, do you take clients? Like how could they, how could they reach you? So the best way to reach me is, so I do take clients, I do one-on-one coaching.
Um, I am in the process of creating a group program. Um. Honestly, what I, what brings me alive is doing groups because there's a way in which a few things happen. One is that the women learn from each other, but together we create this. This field where it's like as one woman makes a breakthrough, it's like literally she opens the door for everyone else to follow.
And, and, and then it honestly, and then it's not about me because I really believe each of us has this power in ourselves. We just haven't been taught about it. And so, so ideally, I'm moving towards a place where I want to run groups, and in the meantime, the best way for them to reach me is at my website.
Mean calker.com and I'll put that in the show notes. Just, you'll put it in the show notes. If you didn't catch that, it'll be in the show notes, everybody. Yeah. And so what Can't spell mean? Calker, right? I was just gonna say. Yeah. And so, um, I have a free guide and um, and it's a quiz. I've always wanted to create a quiz and it's called What's Really Blocking You Now?
Oh, that's exciting. And so it's a way to assess like, you know, am I. It, what is my patterning? Am I tend to like, lead with my head, lead with my heart, and, and so it's, um, and then you'll be on my mailing list and so you'll find out more about when I'm offering things. Okay? So we're gonna put a link to that quiz in the show notes.
So if you are curious to, to learn more, um, learn, uh, you know, what about what's blocking you, what a great opportunity. So, uh, it's look in the show notes for, for that quiz and anything else that you wanna share with the listeners. Like I said, I'm excited about working with women because I think, I think women are much more magical and much more powerful than we give ourselves credit for.
And it's like when a woman taps into her. Turn on and she knows how to source her own pleasure and not just like, like, oh yeah, you know, I had this piece of chocolate and then I kind of run on with my day. But like. Ooh, I savor this piece of chocolate. Or you know, like you just stop and like really like smell or take in the beauty of a, of a bouquet of flowers.
It's like there's a way in which we can really start to receive pleasure from all aspects of our lives and fuel ourselves that way, and that. It's a game changer, and that's a big part of what I teach. Like as we clear the residue out, it's important to backfill that and it's like, what else to do it with?
And pleasure. Yeah. I love that. Um, alright, well that is great. I think that's great information for everyone. And just one, maybe one last question or two, I don't know, which is, 'cause I'm just thinking about, you know, there's probably some listeners who maybe haven't been interested in sex in maybe recently or maybe in a long time.
Is there hope for them? Like what, you know, what happens or what would you say to someone who's like, I don't even know if I care about this part of me. Um, you know, that's a good question. I think some people do give up hope. Um, there's so many cultural messages. I mean, I'm turning 60 this year, and so there's so many cultural messages that would say it's like, oh, like, you know, I shouldn't even be talking about sex.
I shouldn't wanna have sex. It's like, um, and, and so I get it. I think there's a lot of women there that are just like. You know, they've taken it off the table and, and it breaks my heart. Mm-hmm. It breaks my heart. And so what I hope is that in hearing you and me, that at least they, they know that something else is possible.
Mm-hmm. And then it's up to them, like some women, some, and it's not just women, but some people are, you know, they're kind of the type that it's like, oh, as long as it, once they know that there is a way. Then they're relentless and they go for it. And with other people, you know, it's, it's just they require a different type of impetus and, um, and I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know what to say to those people. Yeah. Yeah. But it sounds like, you know, um, it, it's like you said, so often we're unconscious or unaware of what it is that's actually blocking us. Yeah. And that whether it's we're two in our heads or we've kind of dis disengaged from our bodies, um, or this accumulation has come up.
Like there's all kinds of things and the more you can discover what those blocks are, the more you can step into something different that's more juicy and life affirming. And whether it leads to sex with your husband or whether it just leads to greater pleasure in your life. Greater pleasure in you being you.
Like I feel like that's success in and of itself. Exactly. Exactly. I think to me that's, that's the ultimate success and it's one of these things, it's like, it, it just, you said it before, ripples out into all areas of your life. Yeah. It's not just, doesn't have to be just directed towards your partner. So, all right Al.
Well it was a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you. And, um, and I hope listeners, if you are somebody who feels like you, you know, you're really curious to learn more about what's blocking you, maybe you'd be interested in one of AL'S groups. Um, check out the show notes with all the links to her and, um, and I hope that this just helps enhance all of us learning to trust the wisdom of our bodies 'cause that is so important.
Thank you, Mina. Thank you Linda. Thanks so much for listening. If you feel inspired, please rate, subscribe, and recommend this wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more or to book a personal session, go to get inner clarity.com or check the show notes and may you always align to your true wisdom.